Regarding the question about bullet coating Hermann wrote:
"Much has been made of bullet coatings. Peregrine cannot suggest or endorse a specific type of coating, simply because the coating process is outside of Peregrine's control. No company will accept liability for a modification of their product. This said, Peregrine does offer advice on how to reduce friction and thus barrel fouling. You are correct in your understanding that Peregrine bullets foul less, but all copper bullets do foul. Fouling is caused by the interference between the barrel and the bullet. If the barrel is rough, fouling will be increased. Most new barrels look like rasps on the inside, which shaves off copper like a file. Try polishing the inside of your barrel with Iosso or JB bore paste. This will make a tremendous difference. Secondly, use a precision bullet. Peregrine bullets are precision machined to fit 5 micron under bore. Thus the interference is eliminated, resulting in less friction and thus less barrel fouling. Third, because Peregrine bullets are machined, the surface isn't work hardened as with rolled copper bullets. This means the softer Peregrine copper flows backwards easier during engraving and without depositing much if any copper on the barrel surface. Lastly, use one of the new powders like IMR Enduron 4166 or Hodgdon CFE223 that have anti-copperfouing additives."
Maybe my question was not clear enough. Peregrine does not use any coating on their bullets - any reason for that? Franco or Alliwyn?
Also, instead of posting links to the websites as an answer to questions I know that our regular members and casual readers of this forum appreciate a response by an individual. Such personal responses prompt new questions and thus understanding and acceptance grows. It is what the chat forum is about.
To our existing members, the above explanation has been answered by Hermann Weideman, resident in the USA. Welcome to the forum, Hermann.
I am sure that like me many readers of this forum should like to see some closer and detailed images of the different style bullets right here as we speak to have immediate visuals of what it is we are talking about.
Below is one image which says a lot already. Giraffe are tough - no different than a Cape buffalo and demand similar bullet considerations for killing it with one shot. A wounded giraffe is not dangerous in the sense of attacking but it will run headlong into anything in its way.
Franco Jooste of the sales dept at Peregrine South Africa with a rather big giraffe:
Franco is invited to sign up and tell us more about the following:
Type of rifle and calibre?
Which Peregrine bullet did he use?
Shot placement and the reaction to the shot by the bull?
Bullet path and internal performance?
Was the bullet recovered - and what did it look like? Weight retention?
First question - please tell us about the original reason for your expander plunger concept and the subsequent history of Peregrine bullets.
2. We know that you have a dedicated distributor in the USA and a number of retail outlets. Which states in the USA are your largest markets? What about Europe?
3. What was the bottom line of your bullet design to achieve international recognition for not only accuracy but also consistent penetration and weight retention performance?
4. What were the drivers for the nose section designs of your VRG-2/3 series bullets? Also for the VRG-4/5?
5. The new very high aspect ratio bullets look almost shockingly slender. Please tell us about the intended market for this bullet and the most sought after calibres and weights.
6. Copper bullet surface coating to decreases friction: Flat surface monolithic copper bullets have a higher friction coefficient than a thin copper jacket on lead. It is known that Molybdenum Disulphide interacts with the atmosphere to form corrosive substances in the barrel. Boron Nitride and Tungsten Disulphide are other options. Please share some of your thinking regarding this issue and subsequent decision to not coat your bullets?
7. Regarding the above issue of the effect of surface friction on bullet inertia: some manufacturers of these like Barnes and Swift give the valid advice to seat the first contact radial of the bullet some distance short of the rifling. Please can you share the Peregrine advice regarding this important issue for reloaders?
After we have received the response from Peregrine Bullets member no doubt will post their own unique questions here.
These excellent bullets were my first introduction to the South African made premium bullets. I have nothing but praise for them - from 400gr VRG-2 solids in the .416 Rigby to 168gr VRG-3 Bushmaster in my .303.
I had occasion to visit their production facility in Pretoria and it is a pleasure to see the C&C machines in action, as well as the three stages of human-measured quality assurance processes.
As life goes I met a rather well-known South Africa personality in the hunting world at a shooting range while they were preparing for a Cape buffalo hunt with their brand new SAKO .375 H&H rifles and 300gr Peregrine VRG-2 and VRG-3 bullets. When I spoke to him again some weeks after the hunt he had nothing but total disdain for the bullet's performance.
When I responded that I find it hard to imagine a standard shooting angle on Cape buffalo where a properly placed 300gr Peregrine VRG-2/3 at 2,600 ft/sec from a .375 H&H will not function 100% perfectly on Cape buffalo he just said he will never buy it again. Knowing the individual I shall reserve my judgement on that review.
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Regarding the question about bullet coating Hermann wrote:
"Much has been made of bullet coatings. Peregrine cannot suggest or endorse a specific type of coating, simply because the coating process is outside of Peregrine's control. No company will accept liability for a modification of their product. This said, Peregrine does offer advice on how to reduce friction and thus barrel fouling. You are correct in your understanding that Peregrine bullets foul less, but all copper bullets do foul. Fouling is caused by the interference between the barrel and the bullet. If the barrel is rough, fouling will be increased. Most new barrels look like rasps on the inside, which shaves off copper like a file. Try polishing the inside of your barrel with Iosso or JB bore paste. This will make a tremendous difference. Secondly, use a precision bullet. Peregrine bullets are precision machined to fit 5 micron under bore. Thus the interference is eliminated, resulting in less friction and thus less barrel fouling. Third, because Peregrine bullets are machined, the surface isn't work hardened as with rolled copper bullets. This means the softer Peregrine copper flows backwards easier during engraving and without depositing much if any copper on the barrel surface. Lastly, use one of the new powders like IMR Enduron 4166 or Hodgdon CFE223 that have anti-copperfouing additives."
Maybe my question was not clear enough. Peregrine does not use any coating on their bullets - any reason for that? Franco or Alliwyn?
Also, instead of posting links to the websites as an answer to questions I know that our regular members and casual readers of this forum appreciate a response by an individual. Such personal responses prompt new questions and thus understanding and acceptance grows. It is what the chat forum is about.
To our existing members, the above explanation has been answered by Hermann Weideman, resident in the USA. Welcome to the forum, Hermann.
I am sure that like me many readers of this forum should like to see some closer and detailed images of the different style bullets right here as we speak to have immediate visuals of what it is we are talking about.
Below is one image which says a lot already. Giraffe are tough - no different than a Cape buffalo and demand similar bullet considerations for killing it with one shot. A wounded giraffe is not dangerous in the sense of attacking but it will run headlong into anything in its way.
Franco Jooste of the sales dept at Peregrine South Africa with a rather big giraffe:
Franco is invited to sign up and tell us more about the following:
Type of rifle and calibre?
Which Peregrine bullet did he use?
Shot placement and the reaction to the shot by the bull?
Bullet path and internal performance?
Was the bullet recovered - and what did it look like? Weight retention?
Here are my questions for Peregrine bullets:
First question - please tell us about the original reason for your expander plunger concept and the subsequent history of Peregrine bullets.
2. We know that you have a dedicated distributor in the USA and a number of retail outlets. Which states in the USA are your largest markets? What about Europe?
3. What was the bottom line of your bullet design to achieve international recognition for not only accuracy but also consistent penetration and weight retention performance?
4. What were the drivers for the nose section designs of your VRG-2/3 series bullets? Also for the VRG-4/5?
5. The new very high aspect ratio bullets look almost shockingly slender. Please tell us about the intended market for this bullet and the most sought after calibres and weights.
6. Copper bullet surface coating to decreases friction: Flat surface monolithic copper bullets have a higher friction coefficient than a thin copper jacket on lead. It is known that Molybdenum Disulphide interacts with the atmosphere to form corrosive substances in the barrel. Boron Nitride and Tungsten Disulphide are other options. Please share some of your thinking regarding this issue and subsequent decision to not coat your bullets?
7. Regarding the above issue of the effect of surface friction on bullet inertia: some manufacturers of these like Barnes and Swift give the valid advice to seat the first contact radial of the bullet some distance short of the rifling. Please can you share the Peregrine advice regarding this important issue for reloaders?
After we have received the response from Peregrine Bullets member no doubt will post their own unique questions here.
These excellent bullets were my first introduction to the South African made premium bullets. I have nothing but praise for them - from 400gr VRG-2 solids in the .416 Rigby to 168gr VRG-3 Bushmaster in my .303.
I had occasion to visit their production facility in Pretoria and it is a pleasure to see the C&C machines in action, as well as the three stages of human-measured quality assurance processes.
As life goes I met a rather well-known South Africa personality in the hunting world at a shooting range while they were preparing for a Cape buffalo hunt with their brand new SAKO .375 H&H rifles and 300gr Peregrine VRG-2 and VRG-3 bullets. When I spoke to him again some weeks after the hunt he had nothing but total disdain for the bullet's performance.
When I responded that I find it hard to imagine a standard shooting angle on Cape buffalo where a properly placed 300gr Peregrine VRG-2/3 at 2,600 ft/sec from a .375 H&H will not function 100% perfectly on Cape buffalo he just said he will never buy it again. Knowing the individual I shall reserve my judgement on that review.